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[美国西部]阿拉斯加的飞行员的密度是全美国最高的,比别的州高五倍以上因为小飞机是阿拉斯加非常重要的交通公具阿拉斯加有2/3的地方 (等于美国总面积...场都没有都是靠私人的landing strip (降落用小跑道,没有塔台的)或是用水上飞机/水陆两用机,降落在湖泊/海湾里,在开到岸边
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katmai katmai 当前离线 katmai 已通过手机验证. 门号所属国家:United States
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旧 re: 2月去阿拉斯加的行程问题 - 2006-01-11, 08:25

阿拉斯加的飞行员的密度是全美国最高的,比别的州高五倍以上

因为小飞机是阿拉斯加非常重要的交通公具
阿拉斯加有2/3的地方 (等于美国总面积的1/10的地方) 是完全没公路的
所有的交通,全部靠小飞机

还有很多小镇,连机场都没有
都是靠私人的landing strip (降落用小跑道,没有塔台的)
或是用水上飞机/水陆两用机,降落在湖泊/海湾里,在开到岸边
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-25, 01:06

Katmai, really tks for your suggestions!!!!! But sorry have more q.
1. In your experience which is the MUSE see for 1st time comer btn Denali NP, Katmai NP, Wrangle-St Elais, and Kenai NWR?? We only have around 12-14 days & I know everything id good but we got to choose the best 1st.
2. Also is necessary to get 4 wheel drive vehicle or compact will be good enough if we only have 3 ppl since some road is gravel?? Full insurance is NECESSARY?? Since i only have liability in TX.
3. I like the bear catching salmon photo u post so for sure u went to Katmai before, rite?? So if we go see bear viewing than stay overnite is worth or just 1 day tour better?? Is 10000 smoke valley a good trip??
ANybody help me???????????????
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-25, 03:53

Personal, I feel 10000 smoke valley is only okay for me
If you want to see bear and catch the good pictures, Yes, you should spend more time so you will get more chance to take good pictures.

4 wheel drive vehicle is always good if you feel the costs is okay for you. You may get many chances to drive on unpaved road.

Wrangell-St Elias is extremely far away from Anchorage if you want to get into Kennicott Glacier Lodge. It takes us one full day drive from Kennicott Glacier Lodge to Anchorage with almost no stop. We spent 5 days from Anchorage – Kennicott (Wrangell-St Elias) – Anchorage.

Suggest .. You can spend more time on Turnagain arm and some places between Anchorage and Denali. (for example: Independence Mine State Historical Park, and Iditarod headquarter) Or manybe spend more time in Chena Hot Springs… Personally, I feel there is not much fun in Fairbanks. ( maybe I didn’t do enough study on this city.) However, I love Chena hot spring a lot. Remember to bring your swimsuit.. you will like it..
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-25, 04:34

1. 我认为的must-see: Katmai NP, Wrangell-St Elias NP。普通的: Kenai Fjords NP。没特别好的: Denali NP
2. 4WD开起来是比较安心,如果路况差的话。不过别忘了,几乎所有的租车公司,都禁止你把车开到没铺柏油的路,包含4WD的SUV。所以就算你买了LDW,如果你在碎石子路上出事,你的保险也自动失效,还是得付钱修车
我还是建议你买保险,因为不买的话风险更高。只是提醒你,租来的车依照规定,是「不准」开去Wrangell St Elias的,因为那条路没铺柏油
3. 我是去两天,住在园区里面,一般要一年以前才订得到,因为很热门。
如果住不到园区里,就只能住King Salmon。仅管如此,两天当然比一天好,才有足够的时间。万烟之谷是很特别的体验,我还蛮喜欢的
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-25, 10:05

我曾参加这个tour, 给你参考一下
除了住在里面, 这个应该是较短时间一定看到熊的方法, 但很花钱
(当然住里面跟看一天体会会不同)
基本上就是从homer飞去katmai np 等熊走过来给你看
随季节不同飞到不同的地方去等熊
http://www.ptialaska.net/~baldmt/

好像也有其它家, 应该差不多
http://katmaibears.com/bear-watching.htm
http://www.homerair.com/index.html
http://www.alaskatours.com/wildlife/bear_viewing/hallo_bay.htm

denali shuttle bus 就是一个路线直直开过去再开回来
有时侯停下来让你休息一下
运气好也许muse, bear 离你很近
如果你不再去走trail, 不camping 那就是看个山然后bus 来回而己

如果glacier tour是半天, 也可以尝试坐火车去
http://www.alaskarailroad.com/arrc18.html#12
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-25, 10:38

这几个tour是从Homer出发的,通常不会去Brooks Fall / Brooks Camp区域,当去不了Brooks Camp时,它也是不错的替代方案。
我参加的是Katmai NP的官方的经营公司,从Kings Salmon飞到Brooks Camp。有国家公园的ranger解说,也有游客中心,以及最有名的那个棕熊抓鲑鱼的瀑布。
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-25, 11:33

http://www.ptialaska.net/~baldmt/
这个每个月飞去不同的地方等熊
我是八月去所以没有去Brooks Fall / Brooks Camp
不过还是看了很多熊
七月跟九月就有去Brooks Fall / Brooks Camp
"Bald Mountain Air Service announces round trip service to Brooks Camp in July and September! Make reservations for camping at Brooks with the NPS. Tour the valley of 10,000 smokes, watch bears at the peak of the salmon run at Brooks falls! We also do remote drop-off fishing and rafting trips for the more serious outdoor adventurer! Camp and fish along Alaska's most productive Rainbow rivers! "
但我暂时连不上九月的tour, 有兴趣不妨写mail或打电话去问
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-26, 11:12

Ha, tks a lot for help from you all & thats really help me a lot!! So based on all your suggestion than i rearrange my plan. pls do not hesitate to correct me if u feel not appropriate.
9/1: Fly to Anchorage @ noon (city tour, Turnagain Arm)
9/2: Anchorage-Seward/or Whittier (have day cruise for glacier & wildlife)
9/3: Seward-Homer-Anchorage (Kenai NWR)
9/4: Anchorage-Katmai NP(bear viewing)
9/5: Katmai NP-Anchorage(10000 smoke valley)
9/6: Anchorage-Denali (stop @ Talkeetna for lunch)
9/7: Denali NP (shuttle bus to Wonder lake)
9/8: Denali NP-Chena Hot Springs(northern light if possible)
原帖地址: 背包客栈自助游论坛 https://www.bbkz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18502#post97797
9/9: Chena Hot Springs(???)
9/10: Fairbanks(northern light if possible)
9/11: Fairbanks-Tok-Gleenallen
9/12: Gleenallen-Valdez
9/13: Valdez-Anchorage(Prince William Sound by ferry)
Basically we just try different route when back ANC(hwy3 go N to Fairbanks than hwy2&4 go S to ANC). Also any suggestion after Gleenallen I should follow hwy1 which is Glenn hwy or continue to Valdz since Glenn hwy is pretty also.
Bwy if budget really limit than will I really regret if i just short Katmi tour to 1 day only??
Thanks a lot for all your good heart lar.....
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-26, 14:48

Your plan looks pretty good.
I recommend the ferry route via Prince Williams Sound.
Of course, one day trip to Katmai is okay, too.
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旧 Re: re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-27, 01:23

抱歉,插一下话题,因为我对阿拉斯加也有兴趣。
我查了一下到阿拉斯加的机票价钱,
从LA来回最低的约500元,
从西雅图来回最低的约300元,
是否有廉价航空或更加便宜的机票?
若从西雅图到Anchorage或Whittier大概多远?
这段路程开车方便吗?
还有,看极光的最佳月份大约是哪时候?
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-27, 01:49

Hooohohoh, the tkt to ANC or FAI always expensive. I dont know u but if u can than MUST use any kind of mileage to get free tkt. I was in TX & the $ from DFW-ANC is $580(AA) but even by Frontier air still cost $440. It's pretty nice to use only 25000mi to get free tkt.
For driving, I never think about that coz its too far(2400mi. 37hr 1 way). Most the city(AK) inside passage can not reach by car but should be still pretty I guess. For this only big katmai or some other 背包大侠 can help u lar...
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-27, 09:43

Alaska是一个很贵的地方,没有廉价机票
Frontier航空是最便宜的,但也没多便宜
SEA-ANC约4小时航程
开车极不方便,还要经过加拿大,是近3000哩的长征
不适合一般人 (除非你有很多时间)
而且油钱就已超过一个人的机票钱
淡季打折的时候坐游轮反而可能比较便宜
我有买过单程Vancouver-Whittier只要500多美金的游轮
7天包吃包住,当然一不小心就会花别的钱

看极光的季节是九月到三月
九十月和二三月特别好

用免费机票换去Alasak是最划算的方式
AA/NW/国泰航空的哩程计划,都可以蛮容易的用25000哩左右换到美国本土到Alaska的来回机票

我换过四次美国本土-Alaska的机票,绝对是全世界最划算的免费机票
平均用不到20000哩换一张$800的机票
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-28, 02:37

So, Katmai 大人 & all other experience 背包大侠, sorry for more q coming!!
1. how do u guys think if I go Seward than i might try day cruise from there. For this case will the cruise in Prince William Sound(start from Whittier) or the one from Seward to Kenai NP better?? Which is MUST for 1st comer.
2. Also if I take train to Seward from Anchorage, than do I need to rent another car in Seward or what I am gonna to do btn train depot & hostel or to Exit glacier or to cruise place??
3. Is Homer or Valdez worth stay overnite?? If yes than we might not go there for time limitation!!
大大在这里谢了....................
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-28, 06:37

1. Both cruises are good. Whittier cruise has more glacier viewing and less wildlife, and calmer sea. Seward cruise has more wildlife, and potentially more unpredictable sea condition.
2. You'll need a rental car. Forget about seward train unless you only go on the cruise.
3. They are both beautiful. Of course you can stay overnight.
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旧 re: September Alaska... - 2006-01-28, 12:31

I tried to hire a 4WD with insurance coverage on off road condition in Fairbank, however, the effort was in vain, in spite of this, Subaru Legacy A4 4WD still works fine.....off road
I took a trial flight in Anchorage, rather fascinating, http://www.takeflightalaska.com/

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2. 4WD开起来是比较安心,如果路况差的话。不过别忘了,几乎所有的租车公司,都禁止你把车开到没铺柏油的路,包含4WD的SUV。所以就算你买了LDW,如果你在碎石子路上出事,你的保险也自动失效,还是得付钱修车
我还是建议你买保险,因为不买的话风险更高。只是提醒你,租来的车依照规定,是「不准」开去Wrangell St Elias的,因为那条路没铺柏油
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