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Hello.

My wife and I will be leaving from HK to Kansai airport (Osaka) on sept 27th, and will be returning on october 9th from Narita Airport (Tokyo). And this is my first time going to japan, and i read alot of postings in this forum... and here are my itinery..

9/27 Day1: Arrive osaka airport at 19:30PM,
-- Check in to Comfort Inn Hotel at 心斎桥 (http://www.comfortinn.com/hotel-osaka-japan-JP025)
-- Walk around at night, after checking in.

9/28 Day2: Stay in Osaka
-- Tour around the area. ( i have not yet plan out what to do in osaka yet)

9/29 Day 3: Stay in Osaka
-- Tour around the area.

9/30 Day 4: Take a day trip to Kobe.
原帖地址: 背包客栈自助游论坛 https://www.bbkz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120247
-- Take a morning train (about 30 minutes)
-- tour around and have dinner in Kobe.
-- return back to osaka around 10PM.

10/1 Day 5: Check out Osaka Hotel, and go to Kyoto. (APA Hotel)
-- Take a train around 11AM and go to kyoto (about 30 minutes)
-- check in to Kyoto Hotel, APA Hotel, 京都駅堀川通. (i made reservation from APA's website, and it is 8500 Yen per Night for a double room)

10/2 Day 6: Stay in Kyoto
-- tour around Kyoto (i have not yet plan what to do in Kyoto yet)

10/3 Day 7: Stay in Kyoto
-- tour around Kyoto (i have not yet plan what to do in Kyoto yet)

10/4 Day 8: Check out from Kyoto APA Hotel, and go to Hakone 箱根
-- tour around 箱根 (i have not yet plan what to do in 箱根 yet)
-- I am trying to find a 箱根温泉饭店, for my wife and I. Trying to find something that is not too expensive... recommendations?

10/5 Day 9: Check out from 箱根 Hotel, and go to Tokyo in the afternoon (about 3 hours on the train - get to Tokyo about 6pm)
-- Check into Tokyo Hotel (still looking for one)
-- Tour around Tokyo area in night time

10/6 Day 10: Stay in Tokyo
-- Tour around Tokyo (i have not yet plan what to do in Tokyo Yet)

10/7 Day 11: Stay in Tokyo
-- Go to Tokyo Disney world.

10/8 Day 12: Stay in Tokyo
-- tour around tokyo

10/9 Day 13: Check out from Tokyo Hotel, last day in Japan!
-- tour around tokyo and then go to narita airport at around 4pm.


A few questions,

1. Do you think I should buy a JR Pass since I will be taking so much train?

2. The APA Hotel - I searched the japanese website, and I think there is a promotion with a semi double and no smoking room. Can you tell me if it has private bath?

宿泊日:10月1日
タイプ:Web割 セミダブル禁烟室
室 数:1 室
泊 数:3 泊
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料金(サ込・消费税込)
 25,500円

3. What is 一泊二食? When i will be in 箱根, I want to get a 温泉饭店 that is about 10000 YEN / night (for a double room with private bathroom) + Dinner. Is it possible? Can you recommend one please?

4. When I am in Tokyo, i am looking for something cheaper, but must have a private bath - Does 日本东横INN in Tokyo have private bath? Or can you recommend one please.

5. Is my plan ok? Or do you think I should go to Tokyo first and make a day trip to 箱根?
原帖地址: 背包客栈自助游论坛 https://www.bbkz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120247

6. The transportation in Tokyo is very complicated, i am currently trying to find out all the trains that I will need to take.... and how to make transportation cheaper...

Thanks,
Tak
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Another question, once i made a reservation for HOtel from 楽天 -- Do I have to wait for the Hotel to send me email to confirm?? Or is it confirmed rightaway?

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1. Do you think I should buy a JR Pass since I will be taking so much train?
A:你只有一次长距离移动(大阪 -> 东京),其余都在大都市内玩,不需要买JR PASS.

2. The APA Hotel - I searched the japanese website, and I think there is a promotion with a semi double and no smoking room. Can you tell me if it has private bath?
A:APA Hotel房间内有浴厕.

宿泊日:10月1日
タイプ:Web割 セミダブル禁烟室
室 数:1 室
泊 数:3 泊
---------------------
料金(サ込・消费税込)
 25,500円

3. What is 一泊二食? When i will be in 箱根, I want to get a 温泉饭店 that is about 10000 YEN / night (for a double room with private bathroom) + Dinner. Is it possible? Can you recommend one please?
A:一泊二食是住一晚提供二餐(晚餐及隔天早餐)的意思.

4. When I am in Tokyo, i am looking for something cheaper, but must have a private bath - Does 日本东横INN in Tokyo have private bath? Or can you recommend one please.
A:东横INN的房间内都有浴厕.

5. Is my plan ok? Or do you think I should go to Tokyo first and make a day trip to 箱根?
原帖地址: 背包客栈自助游论坛 https://www.bbkz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120247#post950701
A:要看你在东京的5天要去哪些地方,如果想去的地方不多,有多的时间就去箱根;如果要去的地方5天都排不下了,那就以后再去箱根吧!

6. The transportation in Tokyo is very complicated, i am currently trying to find out all the trains that I will need to take.... and how to make transportation cheaper...
A:你可以先把行程详细地点写出来,才知道要如何转乘及有什么套票或一日券可以用.
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1. Do you think I should buy a JR Pass since I will be taking so much train?
A:你只有一次长距离移动(大阪 -> 东京),其余都在大都市内玩,不需要买JR PASS.

2. The APA Hotel - I searched the japanese website, and I think there is a promotion with a semi double and no smoking room. Can you tell me if it has private bath?
A:APA Hotel房间内有浴厕.

宿泊日:10月1日
タイプ:Web割 セミダブル禁烟室
室 数:1 室
泊 数:3 泊
---------------------
料金(サ込・消费税込)
 25,500円

3. What is 一泊二食? When i will be in 箱根, I want to get a 温泉饭店 that is about 10000 YEN / night (for a double room with private bathroom) + Dinner. Is it possible? Can you recommend one please?
A:一泊二食是住一晚提供二餐(晚餐及隔天早餐)的意思.

4. When I am in Tokyo, i am looking for something cheaper, but must have a private bath - Does 日本东横INN in Tokyo have private bath? Or can you recommend one please.
A:东横INN的房间内都有浴厕.

5. Is my plan ok? Or do you think I should go to Tokyo first and make a day trip to 箱根?
A:要看你在东京的5天要去哪些地方,如果想去的地方不多,有多的时间就去箱根;如果要去的地方5天都排不下了,那就以后再去箱根吧!

6. The transportation in Tokyo is very complicated, i am currently trying to find out all the trains that I will need to take.... and how to make transportation cheaper...
A:你可以先把行程详细地点写出来,才知道要如何转乘及有什么套票或一日券可以用.
Thanks,
Hello.

Because of no booking available on October 4th, with 箱根の森. So i made a reservation on October 7th. That means, i will first go to Tokyo, stay for 3 days, then go to 箱根 to stay for 1 day, and then come back to Tokyo for another 2 days.

I was also looking at 一の汤本馆, but it seems like, the price for Saturaday are about 2900 Yen more than a normal weekday.

A few more questions.

1. There seems to be so many train website for Japan - Is there any ONE website that will contains all the location, and i only have to select Start + Finish, and it will tell me all possible ways to get there, including how much, and how long?

2. How is the train prices comparing,
a) Kyoto to Hakone VS kyoto to Tokyo? -- How much and How Long?
b) Tokyo to Hakone? vs Hakone to Tokyo? -- How much and How Long?

3. For Kyoto - i am also looking at ホテルアルファ京都 (www.alphakyoto.com), APA Hotel (京都駅堀川通) , and Tokoyo Inn (东横inn 五条乌丸).. how does the following compare as far as, CONVENIENCE for transportation, Safety and Quantity??
a) APA Hotel, 8500 / night for semi double
b) Alpha Hotel 7000 / Night for semi double
c) Tokoyo Hotel 7560 / Night for semi double

4. For 箱根, how do these 2 compare?
a) 箱根の森 vs 一の汤本馆 ? The price is 9080 vs 8000.

5. For Tokyo hotel, I am looking at イーホテル东新宿 vs スーパーホテルCity池袋北口

a) Can you tell me is スーパーホテルCity池袋北口 = SuperHotel?
b) Do these 2 hotel both have private bathroom?
c) WHich one of the two are more "CONVENIENT" to transportation ? Both said only a few minutes to train station.

Many Thanks,
Tak
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Hello.

Because of no booking available on October 4th, with 箱根の森. So i made a reservation on October 7th. That means, i will first go to Tokyo, stay for 3 days, then go to 箱根 to stay for 1 day, and then come back to Tokyo for another 2 days.

I was also looking at 一の汤本馆, but it seems like, the price for Saturaday are about 2900 Yen more than a normal weekday.

A few more questions.

1. There seems to be so many train website for Japan - Is there any ONE website that will contains all the location, and i only have to select Start + Finish, and it will tell me all possible ways to get there, including how much, and how long?
A: http://www.ekikara.jp/top.htm 这里可以查找全日本JR及私铁搭乘信息,包含你想查的时间及价钱.

2. How is the train prices comparing,
a) Kyoto to Hakone VS kyoto to Tokyo? -- How much and How Long?
b) Tokyo to Hakone? vs Hakone to Tokyo? -- How much and How Long?
A:一样在上面的网站查找.

3. For Kyoto - i am also looking at ホテルアルファ京都 (www.alphakyoto.com), APA Hotel (京都駅堀川通) , and Tokoyo Inn (东横inn 五条乌丸).. how does the following compare as far as, CONVENIENCE for transportation, Safety and Quantity??
a) APA Hotel, 8500 / night for semi double
b) Alpha Hotel 7000 / Night for semi double
c) Tokoyo Hotel 7560 / Night for semi double

4. For 箱根, how do these 2 compare?
a) 箱根の森 vs 一の汤本馆 ? The price is 9080 vs 8000.

5. For Tokyo hotel, I am looking at イーホテル东新宿 vs スーパーホテルCity池袋北口

a) Can you tell me is スーパーホテルCity池袋北口 = SuperHotel?
A:是同一间.
b) Do these 2 hotel both have private bathroom?
A:スーパーホテル都有包含浴厕; イーホテル东新宿没住过,但是以那个价位,又是以business hotel为诉求,应该有包含浴厕,或者你可以写信去问 http://www.ehotel.co.jp/hotels/e-shinjuku/postmail.php
c) WHich one of the two are more "CONVENIENT" to transportation ? Both said only a few minutes to train station.

Many Thanks,
Tak
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在这里发问,建议你写中文,比较会有人回复喔
THanks.

I can understand 中文, but I dont know how to 写中文...

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旧 急急急急急 - 2008-09-23, 20:35
hi.

Can you tell me what type of train pass I should get?? It is so complicated, and I am not able to figure out what pass I should be getting.

I will go to Osaka (Kansai Airport), and leave from Tokyo (Narita Airport). And I will visit Osaka, Kobe, Kyoto, Nara, Tokyo, Hakone in 13 days.

Day 1. September 27th.
Kansai Airport -> Osaka Hotel (Comfort)

Day 2
Osaka

Day 3
Osaka

Day 4
Osaka day trip to Kobe.

Day 5
Leave Osaka in Morning, and go to Kyoto.

Day 6
Kyoto

Day 7
Kyoto Day trip to Nara

Day 8
Leave Kyoto in morning, and go to Tokyo.

Day 9
Tokyo

Day 10
Tokyo

Day 11
Tokyo

Day 12
Leave Tokyo and go to Hakone

Day 13
Leave Hakone and go to Narita

My Questions,

1. I will do the normal tour things -- like, namba, markets..etc... in all locations...
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But i am having a hard time to find out, if i should get,

kansai passport?
kansai thru pass?
JR West pass?
Or just subway pass within each place?

Can you tell me What type of pass will fit me the most? I know JR Pass is no good, b/c I am only traveling ONE time from Kyoto to Tokyo...

2. I will get the Hakone Freepass for 2 days + ROmance car... When I leave Hakone -- do I have to go back to 新宿 first and then go to narita?


急急急急急 -- I am leaving this Saturaday, and I am trying to find out the transportation part! I am having a hard time understanding the japanese websites about transportation.. please help.

Thanks
Tak
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1. I will do the normal tour things -- like, namba, markets..etc... in all locations...

But i am having a hard time to find out, if i should get,

kansai passport?
kansai thru pass?
JR West pass?
Or just subway pass within each place?

Can you tell me What type of pass will fit me the most? I know JR Pass is no good, b/c I am only traveling ONE time from Kyoto to Tokyo...
1)If u carefore convenient, not about price, kansai thru ticket (is like value stored card) is all you need in area of OSAKA, KYOTO, and NARA. Also there's contactless card called ICOCA, also apply to most transportation in Kansai area.
2)And if u take Shinkansen to Tokyo from Kyoto, no need to take JR PASS, no good as u said.
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1)If u carefore convenient, not about price, kansai thru ticket (is like value stored card) is all you need in area of OSAKA, KYOTO, and NARA. Also there's contactless card called ICOCA, also apply to most transportation in Kansai area.
2)And if u take Shinkansen to Tokyo from Kyoto, no need to take JR PASS, no good as u said.
Hi, i care about price.. :D

Since I will be traveling from Osaka to Kobe, Osaka to Kyoto, Kyoto to Nara.... what type of pass I should get (i dont want to over pay).

Is there any pass that let me travel with the following, and the pass's price will be less than if i pay each one individually?

1. Kansai Airport to Osaka
2. Osaka to Kobe
3. Osaka to Kyoto
4. Kyoto to Nara

thx.
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Then u can buy Kansai Thru 2 or 3 day pass for urban transportation in Osaka, Kobe, Kyoto... 6 prefectures.
Kansai Airport to Osaka take limousine bus is the cheapest. But railway transportation in Japan is more convenient and save time, although it is not cheap at all.
Shinkansen is also expensive, wondering what train u wanna take from Kyoto to Tokyo?
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Then u can buy Kansai Thru 2 or 3 day pass for urban transportation in Osaka, Kobe, Kyoto... 6 prefectures.
Kansai Airport to Osaka take limousine bus is the cheapest. But railway transportation in Japan is more convenient and save time, although it is not cheap at all.
Shinkansen is also expensive, wondering what train u wanna take from Kyoto to Tokyo?
1. The Kansai thru 3 day pass - is it ANY 3 days (monday, wednesday, friday..etc) ? Or 3 days in a row (monday, tuesday, wednesday)

2. If it is only 3 days, which location I should use the Thru pass 3 days at? (when i take the train to kobe? when i take the train to Nara?

3. Where can I find list of buses / trains available from Kansai airport to 心斎桥? (心斎桥 Comfort Inn is where I am staying in Osaka) If the timing is not too much difference, then I want to take the cheaper way... (is it about one hour from airport to hotel?) And How much? what are the choices? i dont understand japanese that much...

4. I used a travel website to find out the fares from each big location...

心斎桥(大阪府) via 大阪市営御堂筋线 for 230 YEN (13 minutes)
To
新大阪(大阪府) via [新干线]のぞみ218号 for $540 YEN or $840 yen for express (14 minutes)
To
京都(京都府)

心斎桥(大阪府) for 7 minutes via [普通]大阪市営御堂筋线 (230 yen)
To
梅田(大阪市営)(大阪府) then walk 7 minutes
To
大阪(大阪府) via [快速]东海道山阳本线快速 (390 yen) for 32 minutes
To
神戸(兵库県)


京都(京都府) via [快速]みやこ路快速 for 690 YEN (45 minutes)
To
奈良(奈良県)


京都(京都府) via [JR东海] -- [新干线]のぞみ124号 for 133 minutes (12170 YEN)
To
品川(东京都) via [普通]山手线 for 18 minutes
To
新宿(东京都)


Can you tell me, If i want to get to Tokyo from Kyoto about 3 hours (no overnight bus), are there any cheaper way??

5. Kansai Thur pass can be purchased at Kansai airport, right? But when I get there, it will be around 8PM already -- will they already close?

6. Are there any train pass that also includes the train / bus ticket from airport to Osaka?

7. I also read about Suretto pass - will that be better for me? Because I will take the trains / buses inside Osaka / Kobe / Kyoto / Nara too...?

Does my travel fees looks correct?

thanks,
Tak
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旧 急急急急急 -- Which hotel is more convient?? - 2008-09-23, 23:31
In Kyoto

APA Hotel 京都駅堀川通 (8000YEN / night)

OR

  ホテルアルファ京都 (7000 YEN / Night)
Hotel Alpha Kyoto
 京都市中京区河原町三条上る西侧

Which one is more convenient?

APA is close to 京都駅 and Hotel Alpha Kyoto closer to 三条..

I will also travel from Kyoto to Nara (daytrip), (or is it better to travel to Nara from Osaka when I am there before I go to Kyoto?), and then from Kyoto to Tokyo... so i think the more convenient is better for me.

thanks.
tak
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旧 急急 -- 强罗一之汤(和室) VS 箱根の森 - 2008-09-23, 23:37
Hi,

WHich one is better?? Comparing quality with their price?

强罗一之汤(和室) -- PRIVATE SPA inside hotel room, Dinner + Breakfast = 12,120 yen each person (2 people = 24240 YEN for 1 night)

箱根の森 -- Public SPA, Dinner + Breakfast = 9080 Yen per person (2 people = 18160 YEN for 1 night)

Which one is better?

thanks,
Tak


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